Comments on: Swine Flu Update: are we entering an Age of Pandemics? https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics Safeguarding Humanity Mon, 05 Jun 2017 03:31:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Hayattan https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-153630 Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:03:12 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-153630 that we wont be able to solve those problems.And in this cetunry.Given that I don’t think their timeline is over optimistic. It might even be conservative (unlikely but possible).For those extrapolating from the we went to the moon in the 60 s but now can barely make it into orbit I would remind you that extrapolating from any trend without understanding of the underlying causes for it risks extrapolating into territory where different rules apply.There are a host of potentially game changing technologies (3d printing for example) that could easily radically alter our economics such that it would be unrecognisable to us now.Trying to determine what is or is not possible, or desirable for our future, how we might achieve it,and most importantly explaining and discussing thereasons for why some things may or may not be possibleor desirable is a worthwhile thing to do.There are a number of comments on this thread dissing theentire idea or trashing specific predictions without reasoning as though the respective posters have clarion insight into the future that those on the website you linked don’t.I suggest that such posts are not only unhelpful to good debate.But also that they sound remarkably like the arrogant and dismissive tripe spouted out by purveyors of conspiracy theories and Woo who like to sound like they know more than any one else but can’t or don’t present any reasons for their positions.

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By: Dentist Lake Worth https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-43857 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:14:08 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-43857 An epidemic is defined as an outbreak of a contagious disease that is rapid and widespread, affecting many individuals at the same time. The swine flu outbreak in Mexico fit this definition. A pandemic is an epidemic that becomes so widespread that it affects a region, continent, or the world. As of April 2009, the H1N1 swine flu outbreak did not meet this definition. However, as of June 11, 2009, WHO officials determined that H1N1 2009 influenza A swine flu reached WHO level 6 criteria (person-to-person transmission in two separate WHO-determined world regions) and declared the first flu pandemic in 41 years. To date, the flu has reached over 74 different countries on every continent except Antarctica in about three month’s time; fortunately, the severity of the disease has not increased.

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By: Flu Mask https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-36243 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:14:20 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-36243 I think the main reason for the hype is that the H1N1 strain is not weakened by the same medical technologies as standard influenza. Tamiflu is useless against it, and there has not yet been an effective vaccine developed to fight it.. I think that you’re right about there being too much panic, but I also don’t think that we shouldn’t be worried, either.

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By: Amara Angelica https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-34004 Sun, 10 May 2009 05:02:33 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-34004 Flu Wiki, “dedicated to sharing accurate information without scaremongering,” includes links to CDC, WHO, and other key sources.

Recommended by Jimmy Wales.

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By: Amara Angelica https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-33985 Fri, 08 May 2009 17:45:51 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-33985 New data from Mexico and case numbers so far suggest that if the spread of H1N1 “swine flu” continues elsewhere as it has in the Americas, the virus could infect more than a billion people by July. — Warm weather may not halt swine flu, New Scientist, May 8, 2009

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By: Amara Angelica https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-33978 Fri, 08 May 2009 10:31:59 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-33978 2 Billion Infected? WHO Stokes Swine Flu Fear

The World Health Organization may have inadvertently triggered a new wave of fear over the threat of a swine flu pandemic today by suggesting that up to 2 billion people could be infected if the current outbreak worsens.

WHO chief Keiji Fukuda quickly noted to reporters that he was making statement based on data from past pandemics and was not a predicting what would happen with the current swine flu outbreak.

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By: Amara Angelica https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-33877 Tue, 05 May 2009 01:18:49 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-33877 Some good advice here:

PROTECTING YOURSELF FROM MEXICAN SWINE FLU
http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/3603/44/

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By: Principlex https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-33876 Tue, 05 May 2009 01:15:48 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-33876 Life by crisis.

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By: Amara Angelica https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-33875 Tue, 05 May 2009 01:12:13 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-33875 >The regular flu and pneumonia kill over 50,000 Americans every year.

Citation, please? CDC says 36,000 U.S. flu-related deaths/year, but based on statistical modeling, not confirmed deaths. CDC Laboratories Revealed as Incapable of Accurate Count of H1N1 Influenza Infections, Deaths claims “the CDC is incapable of determining accurate numbers…” and (regarding current stats) “CDC’s official numbers are suspiciously low” because “CDC labs are inadequate testing facilities that are utterly overwhelmed with too many influenza samples to test.”

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By: Jim https://russian.lifeboat.com/blog/2009/05/global-swine-flu-787-cases-in-17-countries-hospital-overload-are-we-entering-an-age-of-pandemics#comment-33873 Mon, 04 May 2009 23:49:15 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=407#comment-33873 “Pandemic”?

If you take the first and third syllable, that’s what we’ve got.

The purpose of the hype and horror is to convince the sheep that they are in mortal peril and that only obaaaaama and the 1.5 billion more dollars he just borrowed from China can save us. Of course, with the flocks storming the emergency rooms and stampeding in panic if someone sneezes in their county, the cost of healthcare is mushrooming.

Mushrooming healthcare costs will, of course, mandate that obaaaaama “do something”. That “something”, of course, will have to be Universal Health Insurance Coverage.

Of course, health insurance does not equal health care.

What we will have is rationing.

So, go kiss a pig. Before it’s too late. They’re renaming “swine flu”, you know, to the more catchy “H1N1”. Anyone who wonders why the sudden concern about the public image of swine hasn’t read Orwell’s “Animal Farm”.

You can fool 54% of the people all of the time.

And that’s sufficient.

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